TickTock: Austin City Council Meeting 8.06.15
Monday, August 17, 2015 by Michael Kanin
Tick Tock is the sortable-by-item-number transcript of Monitor publisher Mike Kanin’s Twitter feed from City Council. Simply click on the item number to scroll to the corresponding tweet.
Tick Tock
Participants:
MKanin 273
Wax_Loquacious 1
Thursday, August 13, 2015 10AM
checking in from #atxcouncil where thinigs are about to get rolling (read: there is stirring on the dais) #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:07 AM
checking in from #atxcouncil where thinigs are about to get rolling (read: there is stirring on the dais) #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:07 AM
all access @austinmonitor readers check out our take on what might happen at #atxcouncil meeting here: http://t.co/1erAhsBkD3 #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:11 AM
Item 48
looks like the Lightsey case is headed for a 4pm time certain. #atxcouncil (thats item 48) #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:14 AM
heree is our latest on the Lightsey case: http://t.co/JjHFzUS2wI #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:15 AM
#atxcouncil under way, with a moment for remarks from former Sen. Gonzalo Barrientos #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:16 AM
Barrientos brings with him a resolution from Tx Senate recognizing birth of @DGarzaforD2s daughter #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:17 AM
that accomplished, #atxcouncil dives into its agenda. majority-zoning today. #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:22 AM
Item 4
#atxcouncil item 4 and item 5 ppd until September 10. #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:23 AM
Lightsey will indeed happen at 4pm #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:24 AM
#atxcouncil pulls items 2, 3, 6 (Grove, also likely ppd), 9 from 11 item consent agenda #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:26 AM
Item 55
item 55, the Red Bluff Hotel item, set for 2 also sounds like likely ppd. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:26 AM
#atxcouncil consent passes yeas: 10 (unanimous) off the dais: 1 @PoolforAustin #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:28 AM
#atxcouncil consent passes yeas: 10 (unanimous) off the dais: 1 @PoolforAustin #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:28 AM
Item 2
#atxcouncil takes up item 2, airport terminal item (@kathietovo suggests will also be ppd). 2 pulled by @donzimmermanatx #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 10:30 AM
Chuck Allen up first on 2. Allen is @americanair IGR rep. asking for a delay to review business lease associated. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:31 AM
Allen suggests that #atxcouncil could be exposed to risk with new lease structure. calls for better understanding of long term plan #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:32 AM
Allen reports that @americanair has worked solid, thru weekend to review changes since they got copies last week. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:32 AM
.@mayorsteveadler wonders if @americanair needs a full month to review. Allen says probable not. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:33 AM
.@donzimmermanatx wonders if @americanair has operated in another city w a low-cost terminal. AA rep: not in US #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 10:34 AM
.@southwestair rep also raises concerns about new low-cost terminal. echoes @americanair calls for delay. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:36 AM
.@southwestair rep questions need for speed w.r.t. terminal agreement. calles #atxgov extremely important market for airline #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 10:36 AM
Daniel Meyer, w Allegiant Air up. stresses airline supports opening of s. terminal. suggests deal would add to #atxgov travel #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 10:39 AM
.@donzimmermanatx asks Allegiant rep whether the airline utilizes similar, low cost terminals in other areas. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:40 AM
.@donzimmermanatx wants to send 2 to committee for further vetting, given vanguard nature of low cost terminal #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:41 AM
.@donzimmermanatx moves to send s. terminal item to #atxcouncil mobility committee on Sept. 2 #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 10:42 AM
.@mayorsteveadler, @D5Kitchen looking to bring item back asap, seems sept. 10 is earliest slot. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:43 AM
.@oraatx1 also pushing for quick move on s. terminal item. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:45 AM
.@mayorsteveadler worries about #atxcouncil getting into details of contracts, doesnt yet see any policy room w s. terminal item #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:45 AM
.@SheriGalloD10 supports reactivation of s. terminal, has questions about #atxgov sending mgmt of s. terminal to private entity #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 10:47 AM
.@sherigallod10 sees those concerns as policy issue. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:47 AM
.@ellenforaustin suggests that more appropriate committee for discussion might be audit and finance. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:48 AM
.@d5kitchen agrees, asks @donzimmermanatx to okay sending item to audit and finance. #zimcity agrees. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:48 AM
.@d5kitchen agrees, asks @donzimmermanatx to okay sending item to audit and finance. #zimcity agrees. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:48 AM
.@donzimmermanatx wonders if private entity could hit #atxgov w clawback, should traffic not materialize. #atxcouncil #zimcity August 13, 2015 10:49 AM
cx: motion is to send item back to #atxcouncil on 8.27. will go to audit and finance in meantime. #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:51 AM
.@mayorsteveadler says that if contract isnt worked out, hell move to ppd to Sept. 10, given workload. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:51 AM
Item 12
item 12 will be ppd to september 12 (related to 4 & 5) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:53 AM
2 ppd formally to 8.27 #atxcouncil #atxgov yeas: 11 (unanimous) August 13, 2015 10:53 AM
#atxcouncil will now hear consent zoning agenda. #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:53 AM
Item 13
item 13 will be discussion item. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:53 AM
Item 14
item 14 will be consent on 2nd, 3rd readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:53 AM
Item 15
item 15 has been withdrawn, as has related item 16. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:54 AM
Item 17
item 17 will be consent, 1st reading only. #atxcouncil #atxgov as will related item 18. August 13, 2015 10:55 AM
Item 19
item 19 will be ppd until sept. 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:55 AM
Item 20
item 20 will be ppd until Sept. 10. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:56 AM
Item 21
item 21 has been withdrawn #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:56 AM
Item 22
item 22 has been withdrawn #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:56 AM
Item 23
item 23 and item 24 will also be ppd. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:57 AM
Item 25
item 25 will be ppd until sept 10. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:57 AM
Item 26
item 26 will be ppd until sept 10. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:57 AM
Item 27
item 27 will be ppd until sept 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov #longday August 13, 2015 10:58 AM
Item 28
item 28 will be ppd until sept. 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:58 AM
Item 28
item 28 will be ppd until sept. 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:58 AM
Item 29
item 29 will be ppd until sept. 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:58 AM
Item 30
item 30 will be ppd until sept 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:59 AM
Item 31
item 31 has been withdrawn #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:59 AM
Item 32
item 32 will be consent all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 10:59 AM
Thursday, August 13, 2015 11AM
Item 33
item 33 is set for consent on 1st reading only #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:00 AM
Item 34
item 34 is set for first reading consent, comes with promises of improvement dollars for park near plaza saltillo TOD. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:01 AM
Item 35
item 35 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:02 AM
Item 36
item 36 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:02 AM
Item 39
item 39 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:03 AM
Item 37
item 37 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:03 AM
Item 38
item 38 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:03 AM
Item 40
item 40 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:04 AM
Item 41
item 41 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:04 AM
Item 42
item 42 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:05 AM
Item 43
item 43 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:05 AM
Item 44
item 44 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:05 AM
Item 45
item 45 is set for ppd to Oct 8. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:06 AM
Item 46
item 46 is set for consent, all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:06 AM
Item 47
item 47 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:07 AM
Item 47
item 47 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:07 AM
Item 49
item 49 is set for a ppd until oct. 8 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:07 AM
Item 50
item 50 is set for consent on all three readings. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:08 AM
Item 33
.@kathietovo will pull item 33. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:08 AM
Item 13
.@gregoriocasar is reading conditions into record on item 13. turns from industrial to mixed use. back on 8.20 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:09 AM
.@gregoriocasar notes that when 13 comes back, itll be about trip counts. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:10 AM
Item 50
.@ellenforaustin wants item 50 ppd until after #atxcouncil takes a broad look at historic preservation. #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:10 AM
.@ellenforaustin also wants no more historic zoning cases until that issue gets #atxcouncil airing. #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:11 AM
Item 50
#atxcouncil ends up pulling item 50, to talk historic exemptions. #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:11 AM
#atxcouncil zoning consent passes yeas: 11 (unanimous) #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:12 AM
Item 3
#atxcouncil moves back to take up item 3, this is for rotation contracts for watershed flood hazard mitigation services. #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:15 AM
attorney Richard Jung up. argues that #atxgov needs to continue to extend M/WBE contracting considerations. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 11:17 AM
Greater Austin Asian Chamber of Commerce head up. arguing for M/WBE presence as primary contractors (vs. subs). #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:19 AM
.@mayorsteveadler clarifies: speaker supports expansion of field of contractors in number. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:21 AM
speakers pitch includes expansion of list from 5 to 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:21 AM
#atxcouncil currently discussing options for specific bids. could re-bid, but #atxgov staff notes at least one submittal cost thousands August 13, 2015 11:30 AM
.@sherigallod10 supports adding 5 to list. 3 would be m/wbe #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:33 AM
and that passes. yeas: 11 (unanimous) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:33 AM
Item 6
#atxcouncil moves along to item 6. @mayorsteveadler suggest item likely to be ppd. #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:34 AM
6 is Grove at Shoal Creek item. David King up first, expressing general concerns about PUDs, base zoning for site. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:35 AM
6 is Grove at Shoal Creek item. David King up first, expressing general concerns about PUDs, base zoning for site. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:35 AM
Here’s our latest on the Grove: http://t.co/5Q0fsQ7G8c #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:37 AM
King calls for moratorium on PUDs in general. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:37 AM
.@mayorsteveadler reiterates that he isnt ready yet to vote on baseline zoning just yet. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:38 AM
.@mayorsteveadler wants ppd to be sufficient enough to make a good decision. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:40 AM
.@mayorsteveadler prefers ppd until Oct. 8 on @thegroveatSC item. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:40 AM
.@donzimmermanatx suggests still some public confusion about…baseline, also admits hes not 100% clear #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 11:41 AM
#atxgov staff goes over what establishing baseline means: what is triggered at third tier. legal adds; height, FAR #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 11:42 AM
staff emphasizes that PUD approval is not on table just yet, after @donzimmermanatx suggests PUD is forgone. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 11:44 AM
.@kathietovo urging baseline represent snapshot of what current zoning requirements are, fit w zoning around tract. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:44 AM
.@kathietovo notes majority of surrounding zoning is SF-2, SF-3. not necessarily reflective of @thegroveatSC, #atxgov proposal #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 11:46 AM
.@dgarzaford2 prefers quicker time table, with affordable housing on table. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:47 AM
at prompting, @thegroveatSC rep says they prefer quicker timetabele, but are okay w Oct 8 ppd date. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:48 AM
.@sherigallod10 notes affordable housing commitment. says advocates looking at proposal. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:50 AM
.@donzimmermanatx asks for holding costs on @thegroveatSC. rep promises to furnish costs. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 11:51 AM
.@poolforaustin: how long TxDOT will stay at @thegroveatSC site. answer: roughly 2 years, but only portion of property #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:52 AM
.@poolforaustin asks whether affordable housing portion of project could be delayed, given location, TxDOT needs. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:53 AM
.@thegroveatSC staff notes project still in zoning, quicker that happens, quicker they can stage out project. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:54 AM
.@poolforaustin:L how long does a PUD take? #atxgov staff: could take a year, more. again notes this is baseline, not PUD. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 11:55 AM
.@poolforaustin asks #atxgov to classify tract in ImagineAustin terms. staff will get back to #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 11:57 AM
.@poolforaustin asks #atxgov to classify tract in ImagineAustin terms. staff will get back to #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 11:57 AM
.@kathietovo reminds #atxcouncil colleagues that tract is unique provides opportunity for affordable housing. #atxgov August 13, 2015 11:57 AM
Thursday, August 13, 2015 12PM
.@Dgarzaford2 reminds colleagues applicant could w.draw PUD application, move w.out it (& some affordable housing) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 12:00 PM
.@poolforaustin moves ppd to oct. 8. passes. yeas: 11 (unanimous) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 12:02 PM
Item 9
#atxcouncil tries to quickly pick up item 9. 9 is STRs. will be sent to Mondays Planning & NH committee. #atxgov August 13, 2015 12:03 PM
.@sherigallod10 notes that there will be full public comment at committee hearing #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 12:04 PM
.@sherigallod10 adds that, when it comes back to full #atxcouncil, it will not have full citcom #atxgov. August 13, 2015 12:05 PM
.@gregoriocasar says that STR item wont start before 5pm on Monday. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 12:06 PM
.@mayorsteveadler: as much as we want to move quickly, please get this right #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 12:07 PM
STRs formally sent to committee Monday. yeas: 11 (unanimous). #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 12:08 PM
#atxcouncil moves to #citcom, yr @austinmonitor team heads to lunch! #atxgov August 13, 2015 12:08 PM
Thursday, August 13, 2015 2PM
stirring on the dais, #atxcouncil looks set to return. #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:03 PM
Item 55
#atxcouncil returns. will take up item 55. will be ppd. #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:08 PM
this is the red bluff hotel. will be back sept. 10. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:08 PM
ppd passes. yeas: 11 (unanimous). #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:09 PM
#atxcouncil has two left, items 48 and 50. #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:10 PM
.@mayorsteveadler prefers to take 48 & 50 together for conversation on historic zoning. #Atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:11 PM
Item 50
#atxcouncil moves ahead w item 50. 50 is historic zoning for Harrell-Perkins House. owners up now, arguing pro side. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:13 PM
home owners site neighbor support for h zoning. calling on #atxcouncil to make a decision today. #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:14 PM
.@sherigallod10 asks homeowners when they bought home (2013), asks when process for H zone began #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:15 PM
.@sherigallod10 asks homeowners when they bought home (2013), asks when process for H zone began #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:15 PM
homeowners: feb or march of this year. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:15 PM
.@poolforaustin, supporter of H zoning, appreciates efforts, tenacity of homeowners. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:17 PM
.@sherigalloD10 asks homeowners what tax bill on property is. answer: $16k. Property comes w H exemption cap at $2500 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:18 PM
Allyson McGee up now. incoming pres of Preservation Austin. not here pro-con, only to urge approval based on merit. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:19 PM
.@d5kitchen urges #atxcouncil to be very very careful in following law w.r.t. H zoning. #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:23 PM
#atxgov staff calls colonial revival house in 50 unique in Austin #atxcouncil. August 13, 2015 02:29 PM
.@oraatx1 wonders if H zoning sticks with property in event of sale. answer is yes. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:31 PM
.@ellenforaustin ready to vote now. but expresses general concerns about the level of abatements offered en total, #atxgov-wide #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 02:37 PM
.@d3forpio asks for total exemption. AISD=max $2500, TravCo=max $3000. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:38 PM
.@sherrigallod10 reiterates that H zoning is important, but also invokes other classes that tax abatements can impact. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:45 PM
.@kathietovo moves approval of item. suggests that home meets criteria. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:51 PM
.@donzimmermanatx wonders if there is a calculation of how many more properties could be eligible for H zoning. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 02:53 PM
#atxgov staff tells #atxcouncil that there will be a new survey of East Austin. August 13, 2015 02:54 PM
.@donzimmermanatx continues to argue that H tax abatement unfairly shifts tax burden to other tax payers. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:55 PM
still, it sounds like @donzimmermanatx will vote for 50, based on existing standards. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 02:55 PM
50 H zoning passes, yeas: 9 abstain: @d3forpio, @oraatx1 #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 02:58 PM
Thursday, August 13, 2015 3PM
Item 48
#atxcouncil still has item 48 left (Lightsey). itll go at 4pm. well be back then. #atxgov August 13, 2015 03:00 PM
Thursday, August 13, 2015 4PM
stirring on #atxcouncil dais, looks like were set to return. #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:03 PM
quick CX on H zoning property tax caps. see here for correct numbers: http://t.co/GA1mDmGfDf #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:12 PM
quick CX on H zoning property tax caps. see here for correct numbers: http://t.co/GA1mDmGfDf #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:12 PM
#atxcouncil returns to offer proclamation on retirement for Willie Conrads retirement. #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:12 PM
Item 48
#atxcouncil moves along to item 48. #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:27 PM
this is the latest turn in what has been a VERY winding road for the Lightsey II case. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:28 PM
neighbors have been fighting the project for some time. the latest is a request for H zoning on a property involved. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:28 PM
.@d5kitchen laying out case. HLC unanimously approved H zoning. no staff recommendation, or from Planning Commission. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:30 PM
.@donzimmermanatx says hes having trouble w idea that HLC is applicant for H zoning on Lightsey property. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 04:40 PM
.@d5kitchen notes that HLC H zoning was initiated as part of a demo request. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:41 PM
.@donzimmermanatx sees distinction, but notes that imposition is the same. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:42 PM
.@mayorsteveadler asks why PC plurality against H zoning. #atxgov staff notes discussion was along lines here (read: no merit) #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 04:46 PM
"@MKanin @D5Kitchen what exactly does H zoning entail?"
how do you mean, @Wax_Loquacious–like process? qualifications? August 13, 2015 04:47 PM
.@kathietovo notes lack of opportunities in S. Lamar region for historic landmarking. #atxgov #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 04:50 PM
#atxgov staff concurs, but doesnt necessarily mean that it crosses threshold for landmarking. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 04:50 PM
Bryan King up now for NHA. here in favor of H zoning. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:53 PM
King argues for saving main house, okay with removal of 58 additions. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:55 PM
King now into argument on historic merits. notes that Lightsey cab introduced taxi meters. #atxcouncil #Atxgov August 13, 2015 04:59 PM
King also cites Lightsey beer delivery service post-prohibition. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 04:59 PM
Thursday, August 13, 2015 5PM
King says NHA is looking for compromise situation, argues NHA would keep whole house, want less density on project #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:01 PM
King echoes @kathietovo: in NHA (of 10k, he says) there are no other preservable examples. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:03 PM
King cites Travis Heights precident for what NHA is asking for: H zoning granted, development went on around. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:05 PM
King cites Travis Heights precident for what NHA is asking for: H zoning granted, development went on around. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:05 PM
property owner on Lightsey II, PSW Real Estate up now. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:06 PM
PSW reaching back into history of case. notes project able to save majority of heritage trees. (major issue early on) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:07 PM
PSW argues that preservation would bring 4-5 unit loss. puts more affordable units at project in $300-$400k range. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:10 PM
PSW rep now disputing merit of historic value of home. suggests businesses not long-running. connection tenuous. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:12 PM
PSW notes that, at preliminary hearings, no one brought up H value of home. (King suggests they did) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:13 PM
PSW underscores impact of H zoning: loss of 10% of project, would have to spread across home values. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:14 PM
.@donzimmermanatx wonders if anyone has expressed interest in buying home. answer: no. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 05:15 PM
.@donzimmermanatx, questions H value of property. says hes really struggling to understand this whole thing #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 05:16 PM
.@oraatx1 brings up crash gate. PSW rehashing tale. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:17 PM
.@d5kitchen underscores community value of H zoning. cites 275 signatures on petition. repeats compromise language #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:22 PM
.@d5kitchen asking re: garage, offers variance to make that happen. #atxgov staff notes that any parking requirements predate H. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:26 PM
garage is part of PSW argument that H zoning would be burdensome–not all of arguement, however. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:27 PM
.@mayorsteveadler brings up lack of recommendation. wants #atxgov staff to explain. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:30 PM
.@mayorsteveadler notes H ordinance ntended to protect uncommonly special, says hes troubled by no recommendation. #atxgov #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:32 PM
.@mayorsteveadler looking for a general bar about where to draw line on H standard. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:32 PM
#atxgov staff admits reservations about this one based on very short amount of time at Lightsey home. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:32 PM
still, @mayorsteveadler looking for broader standard to invoke across the board #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:33 PM
#atxgov staff: folks were significant to community, significant to house. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:33 PM
.@mayorsteveadler wonders about Lightsey relates to that broader standard. #atxgov staff: case of longevity, sig of association. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:34 PM
.@mayorsteveadler wonders about Lightsey relates to that broader standard. #atxgov staff: case of longevity, sig of association. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:34 PM
.@mayorsteveadler again asks how Lightsey compares. staff finally gets to meat: this is short #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:34 PM
.@mayorsteveadler wonders why #atxgov staff didnt bring up community value from start (a bit of cover if H zoning is late) #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:36 PM
#atxgov staff doesnt bite. says community value develops over time. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:37 PM
.@mayorsteveadler notes valid petition. means 9 votes to pass. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:38 PM
.@mayorsteveadler asking why #atxgov provides for petition. staff says: its state law. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:38 PM
.@donzimmermanatx cant find any objective criteria to zone a property H. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:43 PM
.@ellenforaustin tries different tack. asks #atxgov staff if it would find community value on same house in diff case. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:48 PM
#atxgov staff says hed have to think about the case in that context. #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:49 PM
.@ellenforaustin notes owners are unwilling to give up property right. says its hard for her to overcome. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:50 PM
.@kathietovo brings up Mary Baylor house, notes that #atxgov staff had reservations on period of time on that house as well #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 05:53 PM
…and #atxcouncil moves along to #citcom on Lightsey. #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:56 PM
Glen Coleman up as a PSW rep. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:56 PM
Coleman notes that PC has seen case multiple time. argues that PSW believed agreement was in place. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:58 PM
Coleman argues that H zoning would mean house would go on market for $850k. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 05:59 PM
Thursday, August 13, 2015 6PM
Coleman: PSW made 18 months of compromises. lets move on with this #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:01 PM
.@ellenforaustin raises bait and switch issue. Coleman argues that PC felt case was concluded, didnt appreciate H move. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:03 PM
.@d5kitchen argues H zoning was not new. Coleman fires back. suggests client viewed issue holistically was included. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:04 PM
.@d5kitchen and Coleman scrap for a second over what deal was made. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:05 PM
#citcom continues. current speaker arguing for H zoning. says property meets 3 of 5 H criteria (Arch, H assoc, community value) #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 06:07 PM
#citcom continues. current speaker arguing for H zoning. says property meets 3 of 5 H criteria (Arch, H assoc, community value) #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 06:07 PM
PSW director of architecture up. argues firm is well-versed in H subjects. here to talk about merits. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:13 PM
to sum: PSW architecture director says home is not H significant. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:13 PM
PSW looking at existing examples of Tudor revivals, arguing that house doesnt have all elements. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:14 PM
Porch, argues PSW rep, is not representative of style. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:15 PM
Jeff Rowe up. argues that house has real architectural value #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:18 PM
Jennifer Melendez up now. notes that her neighborhood is becoming generic. sees preservation of home as significant. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:20 PM
suggests that NHA pitch to preserve house is 50-50 compromise. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:21 PM
Steve Lacker up now. i appreciate that this is not an easy decision notes subjective nature of this #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:21 PM
Lacker argues that home has great community value, says it didnt come about in last six months. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:23 PM
Lacker arguing that lots are large enough to allow for further development around preservation. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:24 PM
Lacker calls home last best hope to have historic home preserved in nh #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:25 PM
.@donzimmermanatx still struggling with what hes arguing is arbitrary nature of community values definition. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 06:28 PM
Bruce Evans up now. VP of S. Lamar NHA. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:29 PM
Evans pro H zoning. arguing pro merits. includes that road named after Lightsey family. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:31 PM
OH! #theparkthatshallnotbenamed sighting! #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:33 PM
#citcom concludes on Lightsey (48). headed now into closing arguments. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:36 PM
in closing, Coleman says Lightsey St formerly Lightsey driveway. argues natural evolution of name, not honorary. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:38 PM
Coleman also says that devlopers went for tree coverage, onsite detention was priority here, direction they went. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:39 PM
Coleman also returns to lack of merit for H zoning. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:39 PM
Coleman also returns to lack of merit for H zoning. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:39 PM
King closing. arguing that NHA was concerned about this house from day one #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:40 PM
King: there wasnt any bait and switch, quid pro quo. all separate issues. again argues that pitch is compromise. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:41 PM
King calls house Bubba Tudor style #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:42 PM
.@sherigallod10 wonders if property owners could move house. answer from PSW: nope. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:46 PM
.@sherigallod10 looking for room to move things around so home can take just one lot of new project. #atxcouncil #atxgov doesnt seem likely August 13, 2015 06:47 PM
architect also notes that house would not survive a move. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:49 PM
King, prompted by @d5kitchen, seems to embrace move idea. argues that a ppd would allow for exploration of idea #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:50 PM
PSW reps continue to argue that a move would be impossible. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:51 PM
.@poolforaustin asks about costs of new homes. PSW: under $400k is goal. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:52 PM
.@poolforaustin asks about Lightsey 1 costs. PSW: custom ones go for $750k (across street from Lightsey 2) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:53 PM
.@poolforaustin argues that $400k homes are not affordable (cites earlier PSW remarks that homes are affordable) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:55 PM
PSW rep argues that loss of additional homes w H zoning adds to overall prices. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:56 PM
.@dgarzaford2 notes discussion is trailing away from H zoning question, adds that home doesnt seem to rise to H value. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:58 PM
.@dgarzaford2 still moves approval, would like to err toward advisory body input. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 06:59 PM
Thursday, August 13, 2015 7PM
.@oraatx1 argues that architecture doesnt seem to rise to H standards. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:00 PM
.@d5kitchen says that home epitomizes community value. this is simply asking for one house to be preserved #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:02 PM
.@mayorsteveadler says that house is significant but says test is historical as that falls under statute #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:04 PM
.@mayorsteveadler now going point by point on 5 criteria. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:04 PM
.@mayorsteveadler: house has community value. but i have more difficulty with the remaining two #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:05 PM
.@mayorsteveadler: house has community value. but i have more difficulty with the remaining two #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:05 PM
.@mayorsteveadler on the fence about H value. now on to architecture. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:06 PM
.@mayorsteveadler argues that discussion on architectural value is mixed #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:07 PM
.@mayorsteveadler also argues that his vote has to protect integrity of ordinance. will vote no on H zoning. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:10 PM
.@d5kitchen says that #atxcouncil should rely on rulings of #atxgov staff, boards on historic value. August 13, 2015 07:11 PM
.@kathietovo: final passage has to be supermajority. suggests simple majority could keep H active (on 1st, 2nd readings) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:12 PM
.@kathietovo sees H significance. requests opportunity to keep case moving so other #atxcouncil members can see prop #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:13 PM
.@sherigallod10 says shell abstain. concerned that there is no recommendation from staff, PC for approval #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:14 PM
still, @SheriGalloD10 uncomfortable w straight no, given NHA stance on home. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:15 PM
.@sherigallod10 urges compromise over house, if sides can work deal. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:15 PM
so. six votes = pass to second. thats the bar here. #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:16 PM
.@donzimmermanatx taking a minute to wrap. argues nothing extraordinary about this house #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 07:18 PM
futher, @donzimmermanatx says we have to do something about the arbitrary nature of ordinance. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 07:19 PM
.@donzimmermanatx brings in the Alamo. notes his SA background. says people died to protect citizenry from fiat #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity August 13, 2015 07:20 PM
.@poolforaustin says beauty is in the eye of the beholder says H preservation here to help there, also notes loss of #atxgov #atxcouncil August 13, 2015 07:20 PM
#atxcouncil into some discussion about what exactly vote is. vote is only on first reading tonight. #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:22 PM
fails. yeas: 5 (@d5kitchen, @gregoriocasar, @kathietovo, @poolforaustin, @Dgarzaford2) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:23 PM
nays: 5: (@mayorsteveadler, @d3forpio, @donzimmermanatx, @ellenforaustin, @oraatx1) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:24 PM
abstain: 1 (@sherigallod10) #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:24 PM
thatll do it for today. thanks for following along! #atxcouncil #atxgov August 13, 2015 07:25 PM
