Item 80
checking in from #atxcouncil where it seems at least 15 items pulled for discussion. ADUs (item 80) seem set for a 2pm or later. #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:55 AM
Item 80
checking in from #atxcouncil where it seems at least 15 items pulled for discussion. ADUs (item 80) seem set for a 2pm or later. #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:55 AM
lucky All Access readers can get a preview of today’s #atxcouncil action here, courtesy of @lizpagano: https://t.co/3SCGJx2H2A #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:56 AM
#atxcouncil is under way #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:15 AM
#atxcouncil is under way #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:15 AM
Item 11
#atxcouncil item 11 is ppd indefinitely #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:21 AM
Item 34
item 34 ppd until dec. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:21 AM
Item 45
item 45 also ppd until dec. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:22 AM
#atxcouncil lunch break will go until 1:30, dinner break until 7. #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:22 AM
many thanks to @MayorAdler and #atxcouncil for clear break schedules today! #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:22 AM
#atxcouncil will do consent approval, then have a presentation from the @RockyMtnInst, then continue w the day #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:24 AM
Item 18
.@sherigallod10 reading agreement on item 18. this one will remain on consent. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:25 AM
18 is an impervious cover agremnt. neighbors and devs have agreed. MPT @kathietovo says, in her mind, that deal is final #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:27 AM
#atxcouncil pulled: 4, 8, 9, 11, 15, 22, 34, 35, 38, 42, 44 (ppd), 45 (ppd), 52, 55, 62 #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:28 AM
Item 5
#atxcouncil taking testimony on consent. David King supports item 5, more protects for golden cheek warbler. #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:29 AM
Item 64
King also wants more details on item 64, more funding public safety for #atxgov spring events–which will remain on consent. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 10:31 AM
Item 39
Mary Arnold up to thank #atxcouncil for item 39, a renaming of a portion of shoal beach. #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:32 AM
KathTX "@MKanin can u live-tweet ur meals plz? thx."
@KathTX LONG overdue for this. i’ll see what we can do. honestly, this varies less than you might expect? November 19, 2015 10:33 AM
after usual abstentions, nos from @donzimmermanatx and @ellenforaustin, #atxcouncil approves consent agenda. yeas: 11 (unanimous) #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:38 AM
with that, @d5kitchen introduces @RockyMtnInst to talk about #atxgov partnership #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 10:39 AM
.@d5kitchen: @RockyMtnInst will provide #atxgov with a way to go “further down the road” with mobility thinking. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 10:40 AM
.@rockymtninst rep explains how they selected #atxgov for partnership. begins to talk about “mobility transformation” #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 10:41 AM
rep from @RockyMtnInst suggests that there is “tremendous consensus” around mobility thinking. now getting into details. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:41 AM
1), per @RockyMtnInst: “mobility as a service… 2) that is electric and autonomous 3) “…in cities designed for it” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:43 AM
1), per @RockyMtnInst: “mobility as a service… 2) that is electric and autonomous 3) “…in cities designed for it” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:43 AM
(somehow #atxgov qualifies, even under that number 3) #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 10:43 AM
rep from @RockyMtnInst suggests that institute, #atxgov will look at “better mobility options tested and new” #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 10:44 AM
rep from @RockyMtnInst adds they’ll look “transit data offering more options & providing improved experience for users” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:45 AM
also some mention from @RockyMtnInst about “future-proof”-ing code as part of @codenext #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:46 AM
more on all of this, courtesy of @tylercwhitson, here: https://t.co/T1ayasP5TR #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:47 AM
KathTX "@MKanin the people have a right to know, Kanin. what’s in your lunch?"
@KathTX agenda items? November 19, 2015 10:47 AM
ps: lots of autonomous vehicle talk here from @RockyMtnInst. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:48 AM
.@donzimmermanatx is against this idea. suggests that @RockyMtnInst has a “policy objective,” implies others do not. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:50 AM
.@donzimmermanatx looking at costs of @RockyMtnInst partnership agreement to #atxgov #atxcouncil #zimcity November 19, 2015 10:51 AM
.@d5kitchen suggests @donzimmermanatx remarks a “mischaracterization” of @RockyMtnInst project. turns to staff. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 10:53 AM
transpo staff underscores that #atxcouncil will hold policymaking decisions w.r.t. @RockyMtnInst partnership. #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:55 AM
.@d5kitchen moves approval of @RockyMtnInst agreement, catches some heat from other CMs who want to discuss later #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:56 AM
.@mayoradler notes that @RockyMtnInst item pulled early so reps could catch a plane. initial idea was to do this later. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:56 AM
vote from #atxcouncil, however, will bring vote on @RockyMtnInst now. @oraatx1 starts, raises concerns about diversity #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:57 AM
.@oraatx1 wants to know how @RockyMtnInst gets feedback from more than just the usual suspects. RMI promises outreach #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:58 AM
.@rockymtninst also promises that solutions will be community-inclusive #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 10:58 AM
.@donzimmermanatx suggests that @RockyMtnInst procedure might derail larger policy discussions at #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 11:00 AM
.@d5kitchen & @donzimmermanatx continue over policy making concerns. CM K continues w misrepresentation line re: CM Z #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:02 AM
& @RockyMtnInst responds to @donzimmermanatx concerns re:free market w statement that their approach is “market-driven” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:03 AM
& @RockyMtnInst responds to @donzimmermanatx concerns re:free market w statement that their approach is “market-driven” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:03 AM
meanwhile, in future late night news: RT @AndraCLim: Adler posted amendments to ADUs on #atxcouncil message board: https://t.co/UPjjf338bt November 19, 2015 11:04 AM
.@poolforaustin calls the question. @donzimmermanatx has a question for legal before they vote #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:05 AM
.@donzimmermanatx wants to know if budget amendment needed here. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 11:05 AM
legal suggests $$s are already budgeted. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:06 AM
76, @RockyMtnInst agreement, passes yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:08 AM
nays: 1 (@donzimmermanatx) #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 11:08 AM
.@sherigallod10 announces that next Austin Energy oversight committee will move Nov/Dec meetings to Dec 3 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:09 AM
Item 4
#atxcouncil moves along to item 4 and probably item 38 too #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:10 AM
this is sale of land owned currently by #atxgov Resource Recovery #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 11:11 AM
MPT @kathietovo notes that tract was perhaps set for a southeast #atxgov dog park. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 11:11 AM
MPT @kathietovo suggests that process around sale of ARR tract was not adequate. #atxcouncil #atxgov compares to 64 Rainey November 19, 2015 11:13 AM
JoClifton78704 "#atxcouncil Closed captioning is all screwed up!"
@JoClifton78704 really? looks okay in chambers… November 19, 2015 11:13 AM
MPT @kathietovo notes “urgent need for money” associated w sale of ARR tract. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:14 AM
.@donzimmermanatx also expresses concerns about process here. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 11:15 AM
Parks staff: admits “quite a bit of history with this property,” included APA. current value of property in play #atxcouncil #atxogv November 19, 2015 11:16 AM
MPT @kathietovo sums: Value of land has increased to the point at which #atxgov parks CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO BUY IT #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 11:17 AM
MPT @kathietovo wonders if we turned back clock on cost whether parks could afford land. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:18 AM
seems parks might still be interested at 2014 prices. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:19 AM
ARR staff worries about delay here. seems dept had some issues raising fed grant $$s, property would be used to offset. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:20 AM
ARR staff worries about delay here. seems dept had some issues raising fed grant $$s, property would be used to offset. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:20 AM
RT @PointAustin: Morning colloquy on RMI partnership;Zimm says these matters shd be left to private sector (e.g. Uber/Lyft) https://t.co/1Y November 19, 2015 11:21 AM
whatever happens here, seems as though if ARR doesn’t come up with the case, the matching fed $$s will go elsewhere. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:23 AM
MPT @kathietovo wonders how market value is determined here. Staff: post-bid (higher than appraisal) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:25 AM
still, seems that ARR could meet Dec 1 deadline w ppd of 4, 38. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:26 AM
staff: the ed dev grant here would create up to 1,000 jobs for traditionally hard to employ. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:28 AM
MPT @katietovo also suggests that #atxgov should look at EDD sources for funding of project here. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:29 AM
.@dgarzaford2 also raises concerns here about process. wants to know who approves property appraisals. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:34 AM
.@donzimmermanatx moves to ppd 4, 38 until dec 17. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:36 AM
footnote here: Parks notes that tract in question may not be best for dog park. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:39 AM
.@poolforaustin suggests that #atxcouncil push to February on 4 & 38. staff: have to check w developer on contract extension #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:40 AM
another footnote: ARR staff wants to open facility in Jan 2017 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:42 AM
.@mayoradler suggests ppd until dec 17, pending length of last #atxcouncil meeting of the year. #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:42 AM
.@d5kitchen tries for dec 10 now, and by the #atxcouncil head nods that seems to be what we’ll do. #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:43 AM
3 & 48 ppd until dec 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:44 AM
yeas: 11 (unanimous) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:44 AM
Item 8
#atxcouncil moves along to item 8 & 9 #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:44 AM
8 & 9 pulled by @dgarzaford2, looking for process details about the vendor lists here, specifically over size of firm. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:46 AM
staff explains that no size requirements here, but that they “traditionally get a good mix” here #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:47 AM
.@dgarzaford2 says she was told smaller contractor list intended for smaller firms, apparently can’t limit like that #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:48 AM
.@dgarzaford2 says she was told smaller contractor list intended for smaller firms, apparently can’t limit like that #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:48 AM
8 & 9 pass. yeas: 9 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:49 AM
off the dais: 2 (@oraatx1, MPT @kathietovo) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:49 AM
Item 15
#atxcouncil moves along to item 15. pulled by @donzimmermanatx over “an extremely high price tag” #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 11:50 AM
15 is for ABIA parking garage. $120m. staff says this is in line. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:50 AM
.@donzimmermanatx says that person he put on airport advisory committee doesn’t have adequate data for vetting. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 11:51 AM
.@d3forpio pivots to idea that top two bidders are close, and that the 2nd bidder is local. seems trying to angle to 2. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:52 AM
staff concurs w @d3pio conclusion that this bid award flipped on interview. staff adds that this is not uncommon. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:54 AM
.@d3forpio raises concerns about interview questions, again angles to 2nd place bidder. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:55 AM
and @d3forpio moves for 2nd bidder. @MayorAdler asks if staff is okay w 2nd border. staff: yes #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:56 AM
.@dgarzaford2 looking to move contract to Public Utilities committee on Dec 16. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:57 AM
item ppd until Dec 17 yeas: 7 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:58 AM
nays: 4 (@gregoriocasar, @d3forpio, @PoolforAustin +1 i missed) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 11:59 AM
…but #atxcouncil will apparently see if they can take a vote a bit later today…#atxgov November 19, 2015 12:00 PM
Item 42
#atxcouncil will take up one more before lunch. @sherigallod10 looking to ppd item 42. #atxgov November 19, 2015 12:01 PM
.@oraatx1 pulled 42. this is a renaming. @oraatx1 supports ppd until feb #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 12:02 PM
this is renaming of the Austin Tennis Center. @PoolforAustin reminds us that there is a moratorium on renamings. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 12:02 PM
.@donzimmermanatx notes that backup doesn’t include a resolution. wonders if Tennis Center would be called ” ” #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 12:04 PM
and 42 is ppd until feb 4. yeas: 11 (unanimous) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 12:12 PM
with that #atxcouncil moves to #CitCom…and we head to lunch #atxgov November 19, 2015 12:13 PM
with that #atxcouncil moves to #CitCom…and we head to lunch #atxgov November 19, 2015 12:13 PM
#atxcouncil set to roll again for the afternoon stretch #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:47 PM
.@mayoradler begins with a bit of sad news, about the death of an #atxgov employee in a traffic accident #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 01:47 PM
Item 15
#atxcouncil will first reconsider item 15, the airport garage construction issue. #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:51 PM
15 reconsideration passes yeas: 9 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:51 PM
nays: 1 @donzimmermanatx #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 01:52 PM
off the dais: 1 (@ellenforaustin) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:52 PM
15 is then approved, for the second place bidder. #atxcouncil #atxgov yeas: 10 November 19, 2015 01:52 PM
off the dais: 1 (@ellenforaustin) #atxgov #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 01:53 PM
Item 22
#atxcouncil moves along to item 22, designation of Freescale as single Texas Enterprise Project. #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:54 PM
.@oraatx1 wants to know what Freescale. breaks news (?!) suggesting a non-US company is considering purchase of company #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:55 PM
speakers suggest that Freescale would be held to commitments in deal, regardless of company owner #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:56 PM
.@donzimmermanatx will vote against 22, arguing that subsidies are fundamentally unfair #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 01:57 PM
22 passes. yeas: 8 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:58 PM
nays: 1 (@donzimmermanatx) #atxcouncil #zimcity #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:58 PM
abstain: @oraatx1 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:59 PM
off the dais: 1 (@kathietovo) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:59 PM
Item 32
#atxcouncil moves along to item 32, an interlocal w AISD for case management services #atxgov November 19, 2015 01:59 PM
pulled by @donzimmermanatx #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity CM Zim looking for specific questions that would be asked by managers to families November 19, 2015 02:00 PM
staff offers example, a series of qs about employment. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:00 PM
staff offers example, a series of qs about employment. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:00 PM
this seems to be about metrics for program for @donzimmermanatx #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 02:01 PM
.@dgarzaford2 blasting away at @donzimmermanatx point, suggesting need 4 resource centers from broken school finance. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:05 PM
32 passes. yeas: 9 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:05 PM
nays: 1 (@donzimmermanatx) #atxgov #zimcity #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 02:06 PM
off the dais: 1 (MPT @kathietovo) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:06 PM
Item 52
#atxcouncil moves along to approval of an agreement w AmEx for merchant services. this is item 52. #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:07 PM
.@ellenforaustin wonders if reported higher fees for AmEx are seen by #atxgov. staff: not so much. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 02:07 PM
.@donzimmermanatx wonders why #atxgov should “burden” taxpayers w card fees, suggests city pick up bill, take a check #atxcouncil #zimcity November 19, 2015 02:11 PM
.@donzimmermanatx looking for committee review of credit card fees. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 02:12 PM
52 passes. yeas: 9 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:12 PM
off the dais: 1 (@gregoriocasar) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:12 PM
nays: 1 (@donzimmermanatx) #zimcity #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:13 PM
Item 62
#atxcouncil moves along to item 62. 62 is a UNT Lake Austin vegetation restoration effort #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:14 PM
.@sherigallod10 asks at what point the restoration becomes a maintenance effort. staff: at about 20% cover #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:14 PM
62 passes. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:18 PM
abstain: 1 (@donzimmermanatx) #atxgov #atxcouncil #zimcity November 19, 2015 02:19 PM
RT @LillyRockwell: Adler’s proposal nixes…ADUs in SF-2 zoning, sets max ADU size, in certain areas, 0 parking required. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 02:20 PM
Item 80
#atxcouncil moves along to ADUs, item 80 #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:20 PM
#atxcouncil will take some testimony here, w public hearing officially closed. 10 will speak. #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:20 PM
#atxcouncil will take some testimony here, w public hearing officially closed. 10 will speak. #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:20 PM
Jennifer Potter Miller up first. favors “relaxation of the rules…” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:21 PM
Ed Wendler Jr holding court on supply-demand, suggesting that more construction = more construction costs. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:28 PM
.@auraatx member tommy ates. suggesting that ADU rentals are more manageable in terms of prices for renters. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:31 PM
Ates suggests that, given costs of living in #atxgov, there is not time to wait for “a perfect motion” #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 02:32 PM
Ates also says that @AURAatx supports the amendment for @MayorAdler #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:33 PM
next speaker urges #atxcouncil to limit ADUs (850 sq ft, up to 1000 or 1.5 FAR) in size in name of affordability #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:34 PM
speaker also calls on #atxcouncil to reopen public process here, something you may hear much more about as we proceed. #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:35 PM
some concern from some that proposed changes to ADU rules have changed too much since last hearing #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:36 PM
Michael Casias suggests that ADUs can help latinos stay in #atxgov “ADUs were made for us” #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 02:37 PM
@DanKeshet effin d’oh November 19, 2015 02:40 PM
Brian Rodgers up now. Rodgers brings rent costs for ADUs on west 9th. puts em between $2400-$3000 per month. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:42 PM
Rodgers: “The time has passed for the garage apartment” to be affordable. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:43 PM
RT @AndraCLim: Casar: Would you say “significantly easier” to build ADUs if driveway reqs were different? Casias: Absolutely. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 02:43 PM
Rodgers further suggests that ADUs could bring subdivision of lots #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:44 PM
.@gregoriocasar digs deeper into rents by Rodgers, looking at rents in context. sum: W. 9th rents are high in general #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:46 PM
more succinctly: RT @AndraCLim: Casar pointing out these ADUs are one of cheapest places to live on their street #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 02:46 PM
.@oraatx1 wonders if ADU policy should translate to all areas. suggests D1 doesn’t have infrastructure to support ADUs #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:49 PM
MPT @kathietovo wonders if ADU policy might create incentive to demolish existing structures. Rodgers echoes. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:51 PM
.@gregoriocasar suggests that demo incentive idea from MPT @kathietovo “isn’t true” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:53 PM
.@gregoriocasar suggests that demo incentive idea from MPT @kathietovo “isn’t true” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:53 PM
and @oraatx1 says demo incentive “is true”…in D1 at least. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:54 PM
MPT @kathietovo echoes @oraatx1, turns to neighborhood plans and notes that some don’t allow ADUs #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:54 PM
.@d5kitchen suggests that “it’s really breaking trust” to override the neighborhood planning process #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:55 PM
.@caritasofaustin rep up in support of ADUs, saying they would “add affordable housing across a range of price points” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 02:57 PM
Marion Mlotok up. echoing concerns over demolition, flooding (assoc, she says, w increase in impervious cover) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:00 PM
RT @DanKeshet: Major theme in debate is whether to look at housing market citywide or chunk by chunk. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 03:00 PM
RT @AndraCLim: For @AustinWatershed’s take on ADUs and flooding, as requested by CM Pool: https://t.co/fvaARo71P8 #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 03:00 PM
Mlotok calls on first reading version of #ADUcity, or more process. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:01 PM
StuartHarryHersh pulls out “jim crowe Austin” regs, says #atxcouncil can do better. #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:05 PM
.@donzimmermanatx wants more history. SHH: ADUs didn’t come back until 90s. “we have constrained the supply” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:06 PM
Susan Moffatt up. supports PC version, wants any new changes to go through LDC rewrite. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:07 PM
Moffat: some streets can’t handle more cars, w new parking regs. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:08 PM
Moffat: also concerned w process. says shed be concerned w how it’s gone, even if she supported new regs #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:09 PM
#citcom concludes. ADUs back to dais. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:10 PM
.@donzimmermanatx pushing 4 speaker he’d invited to give remarks. .@poolforaustin wonders if anyone else wants to go. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:12 PM
TPPF speaker goes. she supports ADU rules. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 03:12 PM
…now we’re back to the dais. @mayoradler laying out his amendment #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:16 PM
as @LillyRockwell noted, to sum, @MayorAdler action would strike SF-2, but eliminate parking regs. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:16 PM
.@mayoradler amends also include ADU size cap at 1100 Sq ft. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:23 PM
.@mayoradler amends also include ADU size cap at 1100 Sq ft. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:23 PM
.@mayoradler casts amends as a “middle place” that doesn’t go “too far” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:25 PM
.@gregoriocasar echoes @mayoradler. says amends puts all in a better place than they were before. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:25 PM
.@austinmonitor team handicap is that this looks to have support of 6 on dais. we’ll see. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:27 PM
.@d5kitchen clarifies that @MayorAdler amendment has no impact on STR issues. Mayor confirms. #atxcouncil #atxgov (maybe 7 votes?) November 19, 2015 03:28 PM
.@oraatx1 doesn’t believe that ADU policy will impact affordability, diversity. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:29 PM
.@oraatx1 again calls for #atxcouncil to send ADUs to @codenext #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:30 PM
MPT @kathietovo into parking issue. notes that PC didn’t recommend no required parking. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:34 PM
staff note that centers are not clearly defined, could need clarification on that .25 mile boundary #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:39 PM
.@mayoradler asks about parking req recommend from staff re: .25 mile of activity corridor. staff notes no rec here. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:41 PM
.@mayoradler suggests swapping language to corridor. that’s in. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:42 PM
.@poolforaustin wonders about definition of activity corridor here, @GregorioCasar puts it simply: The yellow lines #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:43 PM
yellow lines in plans, that is. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:44 PM
.@d5kitchen suggests that corridors don’t het have transit, wants to wait for transit. #atxcouncil #atxgov #couldbeawhile November 19, 2015 03:44 PM
.@gregoriocasar calls for #atxcouncil to think about not where transit is, but about where it would (should?) go. #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:46 PM
.@gregoriocasar: suggests that driving .25 mile is better than moving out of #atxgov, commuting #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:51 PM
.@dgarzaford2 looking for on-the-ground service, wants corridors to have existing transit. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:52 PM
.@gregoriocasar wonders if ADU rules could mirror ‘T’ criteria in SMART housing #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:54 PM
‘T’ = 1/2 mile of transit route. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:54 PM
.@mayoradler adopting for ADU “1/4 mile of activity corridor w bus/transit route #ATxcouncil #Atxgov November 19, 2015 03:55 PM
.@mayoradler adopting for ADU “1/4 mile of activity corridor w bus/transit route #ATxcouncil #Atxgov November 19, 2015 03:55 PM
.@mayoradler amends adopted yeas: 9 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:55 PM
nays: 2 (@oraatx1, MPT @kathietovo) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:56 PM
.@D5kitchen has amends. looking for more process around adoption of rules, trying to get this into @codenext process. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:57 PM
RT @AndraCLim: Kitchen: I support relaxing ADU regs. I don’t want to apply city-wide w/o a process #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 03:57 PM
.@d5kitchen puts whatever passes today in front of code next. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 03:59 PM
.@mayoradler, @GregorioCasar also support @d5kitchen amendment. seems likely to pass. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:00 PM
.@donzimmermanatx calls @d5kitchen amendment “superfluous,” argues CodeNext probably already looking at this. he’s a no. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:03 PM
.@d5kitchen into questions of contradictions btwn ADU rules & NHPs. suggests that some rules would indeed short-circuit #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:11 PM
.@d5kitchen amendment passes. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:13 PM
abstain: 1 (@donzimmermanatx) #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 04:13 PM
.@d5kitchen now laying out amendment that ADU rules would not supersede NHPs #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:14 PM
.@d5kitchen suggests w.out amend, #atxcouncil would be undoing NHPs, “breaking trust” #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:15 PM
eraycollins "@MKanin NHP = neighborhood housing ?????"
@eraycollins neighborhood plans November 19, 2015 04:15 PM
.@d5kitchen says she doesn’t know how many neighborhoods would be impacted, knows of at least one. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:16 PM
.@d5kitchen asks if neighborhoods were informed that ADU changes could impact NHPs; answer is no (from gallery too) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:17 PM
to be clear: notification would not normally been part of process. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:18 PM
.@gregoriocasar notes that much of what is in question is in D5, and “most desirable” parts of #atxgov in D9 #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 04:18 PM
.@gregoriocasar notes that much of what is in question is in D5, and “most desirable” parts of #atxgov in D9 #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 04:18 PM
RT @tcb: @mkanin @d5kitchen Crestview NA and Contact Team discussed in meetings. Brentwood, Allandale all passed resolutions on ADU November 19, 2015 04:19 PM
.@gregoriocasar says that NHPs would keep folks out of some “of the best…most desirable” neighborhoods. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:20 PM
MPT @kathietovo suggests NHs have right to determine tools they want to use, asks colleagues to consider those concerns. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:21 PM
MPT @kathietovo suggests that NHPs reflect best knowledge of NH needs #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:22 PM
MPT @kathietovo suggests that she is sitting on the dais because her constituents were concerned about respect for NHPs #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:23 PM
.@dgarzaford2 wonders what happens if you don’t live in area w NHP; what regs apply? #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:23 PM
staff: no NHP = the question hasn’t even been asked. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:24 PM
.@dgarzaford2: “that’s a concern” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:24 PM
.@dgarzaford2: “this #atxcouncil has to make some really hard choices…to solve some very complicated issues” #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:25 PM
.@SheriGalloD10 currently running down this chart…#atxcouncil #atxgov https://t.co/ILum5snx8w November 19, 2015 04:28 PM
.@sherigallod10 suggests that ADU adds would impact impervious cover to the relative tune of an addition. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:28 PM
.@sherigallod10 adds: when so many rent, the NHPs can feel discriminatory toward renters. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:29 PM
.@d5kitchen: “the central neighborhoods are not trying to keep anyone out”; adds that her D central NHs don’t have NHPs #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:30 PM
.@d5kitchen makes NHP issue one of process: that if #atxcouncil steps away from NHPs, they should do that via process. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:31 PM
.@ellenforaustin flips MPT @kathietovo argument. suggests MPT has right to speak for D, as @GregorioCasar does for his #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:33 PM
.@ellenforaustin: majority of her constituents don’t know what a NHP is…#atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:33 PM
.@donzimmermanatx echoes @ellenforaustin that those in his D don’t know what NHPs are. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 04:35 PM
.@donzimmermanatx says he learned about politics around NHPs from MPT @kathietovo’s 2014 race. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 04:35 PM
.@donzimmermanatx brings up Cardinal Point (affordable housing), his attempt to get his colleagues to vote that down #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:36 PM
.@donzimmermanatx brings up Cardinal Point (affordable housing), his attempt to get his colleagues to vote that down #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:36 PM
.@donzimmermanatx adds that he wishes #atxgov could get rid of zoning, go with deed restrictions. #atxcouncil #zimcity November 19, 2015 04:37 PM
at @donzimmermanatx suggestion that MPT @kathietovo is engaging in ward politics, MPT says its about “citizen’s voices” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:38 PM
RT @juliamontgomery: @DonZimmermanATX, shorter…Neighborhood plan deference = ward politics. #ATXCouncil November 19, 2015 04:39 PM
.@d3forpio into his experience w his own ADU, suggests he had to fight ANC the whole way. says ADUs help w diversity #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:39 PM
RT @lubomudrov: .@MKanin @ellenforaustin What was the generally expected turnout back when we had the May elections again? 10% on a good ye November 19, 2015 04:40 PM
lubomudrov ".@MKanin @ellenforaustin What was the generally expected turnout back when we had the May elections again? 10% on a good year?"
.@lubomudrov @EllenforAustin btwn 6-12% pre-10-1; 11% in 2015 November 19, 2015 04:41 PM
.@oraatx1 continues to argue that ADUs won’t impact housing affordability #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:42 PM
.@oraatx1 adds that doing ADUs now is too quick, urges patience. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:43 PM
.@gregoriocasar says that @d5kitchen amend would strike “several thousand lots,” all west of I35. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:44 PM
.@d5kitchen argues that @GregorioCasar suggestion won’t happen. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:45 PM
.@d5kitchen calls her amendment “very narrow”; still seems to lack votes November 19, 2015 04:46 PM
.@d5kitchen amend fails yeas: 4 (MPT @kathietovo, @poolforaustin, @d5kitchen, @oraatx1) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:48 PM
nays: 7 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:48 PM
MPT @kathietovo brings up a more broad version of @d5kitchen offering, would treat areas w.out NHPs as those w NHPs #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:49 PM
MPT @kathietovo asks staff to run video of Avenue A flooding in Hyde Park. implied link to increased impervious cover? #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:51 PM
MPT @kathietovo looking for opt-in/out process over blanket allowance. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:54 PM
#atxcouncil drops into legal weeds w MPT @Kathietovo language (we couldn’t pass on 3rd reading, it seems) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:57 PM
we’ll see if the amends pass first. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 04:58 PM
MPT @kathietovo tries for ppd. fails yeas: 4 (@kathietovo, @oraatx1, @PoolforAustin, @d5kitchen) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:00 PM
MPT @kathietovo tries for ppd. fails yeas: 4 (@kathietovo, @oraatx1, @PoolforAustin, @d5kitchen) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:00 PM
.@donzimmermanatx moves to end debate. 8 votes required. that fails too. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:01 PM
MPT @kathietovo tries now with combined amends. opt in/out w property owner appeal provision. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:01 PM
.@dgarzaford2 not NHs vs Urbanists. “not an issue in my neighborhood”; says trying to listen to what makes sense #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:03 PM
.@dgarzaford2 looks at logic. “if the majority of the NH doesn’t want ADUs, the majority…wont build ADUs” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:04 PM
.@dgarzaford2 says that flooding footage was a bit offensive, given what happened in her district. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:04 PM
.@ellenforaustin echoes @dgarzaford2, adds opt out not advisable. trying for option would allow opt-in (even SF2) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:06 PM
.@ellenforaustin takes NH control to a place probably not welcomed by neighborhood control advocates. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:09 PM
to be clear: @ellenforaustin move would allow anyone to opt-in #atxcouncil #atxgov, instructs CMgr to construct rule #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:11 PM
.@poolforaustin won’t support based on agreement in place #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:11 PM
.@ellenforaustin suggests that her amendment doesn’t override deal, just allows those who want ADUs to build ADUs #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:13 PM
.@d5kitchen tries a move to turn SF3 into opt in, no takers yet #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:15 PM
.@gregoriocasar: seems #atxcouncil could just do this w direction; @ellenforaustin only allows opting in for those who want it #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:15 PM
RT @AndraCLim: Casar: We didn’t take all SF2 out. We took out SF2 that had not opted in #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 05:16 PM
were trying to figure out what opt in/out means. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:20 PM
.@ellenforaustin, hearing that NHPs already have opt in ability, reframes for only areas w.out NHP #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:21 PM
RT @lizpagano: @MKanin AMONG OTHER THINGS November 19, 2015 05:21 PM
for the record i think i count two different meanings of opt in here. we’ll see what happens! #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:23 PM
RT @AndraCLim: Kitchen: But neighborhoods with SF2 would get a choice and neighborhoods with SF3 wouldn’t #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 05:23 PM
.@ellenforaustin amend fails yeas: 5 (@oraatx1, @DonZimmermanATX, @ellenforaustin, @sherigallod10, @GregorioCasar) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:24 PM
.@ellenforaustin amend fails yeas: 5 (@oraatx1, @DonZimmermanATX, @ellenforaustin, @sherigallod10, @GregorioCasar) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:24 PM
back to main MPT @kathietovo amend. fails. yeas: 5 (@d5kitchen, @oraatx1, @DonZimmermanATX, @Kathietovo, + 1) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:25 PM
main ADU motion passes. yeas: 8 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:25 PM
nays: 3 (@oraatx1, @Kathietovo, +1) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:26 PM
last nay is @d5kitchen #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:26 PM
Item 74
#atxcouncil moves along to item 74. 74 is power plant and chiller maintenance. #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:27 PM
.@d3forpio moves approval. passes. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:30 PM
abstain: 1 @donzimmermanatx #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 05:30 PM
#atxcouncil moves along to 75. 75 another AE service contract. passes: yeas: 11 (unanimous) #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:31 PM
Item 77
MPT @kathietovo pads item 77 until dec 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:31 PM
Item 78
#atxcouncil moves along to item 78. 78 is waiving fees for octogenarians at #atxgov pools November 19, 2015 05:32 PM
staff puts real impact at roughly $18k. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:33 PM
.@poolforaustin moves approval. @dgarzaford2 wonders why 80. staff: that’s where the precedent is. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:33 PM
.@donzimmermanatx is against it. argues that one of his constituents called and spoke against. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:35 PM
78 passes. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:36 PM
nays: 1 @donzimmermanatx #atxgov #zimcity #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 05:36 PM
Item 81
#atxcouncil moves along to item 81 and 82, 2 eminent domain condemnations. #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:37 PM
81 passes yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:38 PM
abstain: 1 (@donzimmermanatx) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:38 PM
82 passes. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:38 PM
82 passes. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:38 PM
abstains: 1 (@donzimmermanatx) #atxcouncil #zimcity #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:39 PM
Item 80
we’re going to reconsider item 80, ADUs real fast so @PoolforAustin can vote against it. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:39 PM
that happens, and final tally is 7-4 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 05:40 PM
@sobiern @PoolforAustin yup November 19, 2015 05:47 PM
stirring on dais, looks like @atxcouncil is set to return. #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:02 PM
#atxcouncil is back to do the evening portion of today #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:06 PM
#atxcouncil takes up 55, approval of the consumer advocate for the @austinenergy cost of service study. #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:07 PM
pulled by @DonZimmermanATX and @GregorioCasar #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:07 PM
.@donzimmermanatx suggests that #atxcouncil is the “advocate for our user community” #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 07:08 PM
.@gregoriocasar notes EUC concerns about advocate #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:10 PM
.@gregoriocasar: what were EUC’s concerns? #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:10 PM
staff: touts record of firm in question; says that “greater questions” circled around nature of advocacy role #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:12 PM
.@gregoriocasar wonders about experience of firm. notes experience is in Connecticut #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:13 PM
.@gregoriocasar asks about timeline. resolicitation would push timeline. and timeline of cost of service study. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:16 PM
.@d3forpio picks up line of questioning about lack of local experience. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:17 PM
staff: did our best to find a local firm; got no local responses #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:18 PM
staff notes that firm has deep understanding of financial analysis needed here. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:18 PM
.@d3forpio wonders if @austinenergy went 2 UT for consumer advocate. staff: not sure, but we talked to a lot of folks #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:19 PM
.@sherigallod10 shares some concerns of #atxcouncil colleagues, but also sees need to move ahead here because of timeline #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:21 PM
.@sherigallod10 shares some concerns of #atxcouncil colleagues, but also sees need to move ahead here because of timeline #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:21 PM
MPT @kathietovo adds concerns about lack of experience by selected firm w.r.t. residential customers. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:22 PM
MPT @Kathietovo suggests that @austinenergy re-solicit, keep pounding pavement for another group. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:25 PM
MPT @Kathietovo: #atxgov was able to move very quickly to find consumer advocate during 2012 rate case. staff: different process #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 07:26 PM
staff: wanted to make process more transparent. still, MPT @Kathietovo wonders whether AE could do prof svcs contract. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:27 PM
MPT @Kathietovo points to list provided by Lanetta Cooper, wants AE to check those names. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:29 PM
staff: re-solicit could push into next fall, and election season. math there: rates + election + lege = #yikes? #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:31 PM
.@poolforaustin: any contacted companies have experience w small business and residential; maybe they need another list #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:36 PM
staff: scope was clear about what experience was necessary. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:37 PM
staff: scope included small business, residential experience. respondent was sufficiently skilled. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:39 PM
staff now reading from scope of work. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:39 PM
staff: #atxcouncil asked staff to find a consumer advocate who would rep all customers. #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:40 PM
.@poolforaustin still looking for specific experience w low income residential advocacy here. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:41 PM
.@poolforaustin suggests that direction from prior #atxcouncil may have been lacking in terms of specificity. #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:41 PM
staff: #atxcouncil may have been looking for a balance. #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:42 PM
.@gregoriocasar moves to ppd to meeting on Dec. 3. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:42 PM
.@mayoradler wonders if bidder could pull out. staff not concerned about that. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:43 PM
MPT @Kathietovo suggests that prior #atxcouncil resolution was exact in request; still doesn’t blame staff. #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:45 PM
ppd to Dec. 3 yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:45 PM
nays: 1 (@ellenforaustin) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:46 PM
nays: 1 (@ellenforaustin) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:46 PM
#atxcouncil moves along to items 79 and 98 #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:46 PM
these are amendments for reuse, recycling of construction materials. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:47 PM
David King notes that resolution was scaled-back from ZWAC recommendations. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:47 PM
Andrew Dobbs up now. thanking those involved. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:49 PM
tcb "@MKanin how much meeting is left?"
@tcb handful of public hearings–and the downtown density bonus item November 19, 2015 07:52 PM
construction industry rep up, worries about costs associated w new rules. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:53 PM
.@donzimmermanatx agrees. worries that #atxcouncil will pass, calls it frustrating “to sit there and watch this happen” #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 07:55 PM
.@ellenforaustin picks up on construction concerns over aspirational goals. wonders what’s real. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:56 PM
construction industry rep: markets still need to develop “otherwise it’s just going to pile up” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:56 PM
.@mayoradler sums construction rep’s sentiment: okay w existing, worried about future cost escalation. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 07:59 PM
.@gregoriocasar wondering about those “aspirational stair steps”; looking for room to include, but wants later #atxcouncil approval #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:05 PM
.@ellenforaustin appears not be interested in version of “aspirational stair step”; @GregorioCasar calls it happy medium #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:07 PM
#atxcouncil tables this for the time being, pending legal action #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:08 PM
Item 83
#atxcouncil moves along to item 83, the Pilot Knob PUD. #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:08 PM
.@dgarzaford2 reports some progress here. she’s been pushing for more affordability as part of project. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:09 PM
.@dgarzaford2 seems ready to move ahead on 2nd reading; would be back for 3rd. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:09 PM
indeed, #atxgov staff suggests that they are getting close on deal. 83 passes on 2nd reading. yeas: 11 (unanimous) #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:10 PM
Item 84
#atxcouncil moves along to item 84. zoning change for Townbridge Homes. #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:11 PM
Commission recommended prohibition of “gated access” associated w project. vote today on first reading only. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:11 PM
Commission recommended prohibition of “gated access” associated w project. vote today on first reading only. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:11 PM
.@dgarzaford2 not ready to close public hearing. 84 passes on first reading only, PH open yeas: 11 (unanimous) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:12 PM
Item 96
#atxcouncil moves along to item 96. 96 Urban Oaks Apartments affordable housing progress, Circle S Road. #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:13 PM
96 is public hearing for actions that would allow project to apply for 4% tax credits. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:14 PM
.@donzimmermanatx wants to know how much #atxgov $$s will go to project. answer: none, but won’t get on tax rolls. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 08:16 PM
.@donzimmermanatx asks about bonds associated w project. answer: tax-exempt bonds. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 08:16 PM
.@donzimmermanatx argues projects such as these are “unaffordable housing” because they don’t contribute to tax base #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:17 PM
.@donzimmermanatx suggestion is that lack of taxes means residents don’t contribute to pool of $$s for services. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:18 PM
96 passes yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:19 PM
nays: @DonZimmermanATX #atxcouncil #zimcity #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:19 PM
#atxcouncil moves to items 34, 35 resolutions that support 96. pass. yeas: 10 nays: @DonZimmermanATX #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 08:20 PM
#atxcouncil moves along to AFHC meeting. #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:21 PM
or rather AHFC portion of the meeting #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:22 PM
AFHC adjourns, #atxcouncil back to business. #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:27 PM
Item 91
#atxcouncil moves along to item 91. 91 is application for Terrace at Walnut in #atxgov ETJ. resolution of no objection. November 19, 2015 08:28 PM
.@oraatx1 will vote against because of lack of amenities around development #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:32 PM
.@mayoradler wonders if staff supports development. staff: yup. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:33 PM
.@mayoradler asks Spencer to address @oraatx1 concerns. to sum: amenities tend to follow development. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:33 PM
Spencer: also that “it’s valuable to get as much housing as we can” in market like #atxgov #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 08:34 PM
.@ellenforaustin: 4% tax credits “worth a lot of money” only thing need is a res from #atxcouncil; not competitive at state level #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:36 PM
.@ellenforaustin: 4% tax credits “worth a lot of money” only thing need is a res from #atxcouncil; not competitive at state level #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:36 PM
.@ellenforaustin argues that #atxcouncil should use power of approval to influence where developments should go. #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:36 PM
.@mayoradler picks up @ellenforaustin line; wonders if #atxcouncil should be more selective based on location. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:37 PM
Spencer: we need housing. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:37 PM
.@mayoradler: opportunity cost if they move ahead (missing out on other devs)? Spencer: never hit 4% cap, so no #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:38 PM
.@d3forpio likes project, notes it offers 3, 4BR units #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:39 PM
.@d3forpio suggests that by not approving development, #atxgov would be saying no to poor people #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 08:41 PM
.@oraatx1 notes that approval is forcing folks to travel far to get groceries, other necessities. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:41 PM
.@donzimmermanatx again wonders if this project is on tax rolls. answer: no #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 08:43 PM
again, @DonZimmermanATX concerns are that dev doesn’t contribute to services pool, and still receives services. #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 08:44 PM
rep adds that, since development is in ETJ, no #atxgov taxes involved. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 08:44 PM
91 passes. yeas: 8 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:46 PM
nays: 3 (@donzimmermanatx, @oraatx1, and @ellenforaustin) #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 08:47 PM
Item 92
#atxcouncil moves along to item 92. 92 is changes to PUD density bonuses. #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:47 PM
ooooh! #tacopud reference to begin things here on the PUD density bonus discussion #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:50 PM
ultimately, 92 eliminates fee in lieu associated w PUD affordability, adds review steps for offsite in lieu 4 R projects #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:53 PM
.@alohaanalytics up. notes audit of NHCD w finding of overstatement of affordable housing. more: https://t.co/UtjpMJli5G #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:55 PM
.@dgarzaford2 has amendment that changes 99 year ownership clause to “affordable in perpetuity” #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:56 PM
.@dgarzaford2 amend passes. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:57 PM
nays: @DonZimmermanATX #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 08:58 PM
nays: @DonZimmermanATX #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 08:58 PM
.@mayoradler has amendment. this to process…passes. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:59 PM
nays: @donzimmermanatx #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 08:59 PM
MPT @kathietovo now offering amends. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 08:59 PM
first MPT @Kathietovo would send any proposals for a portion of fee in lieu to #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:00 PM
next MPT @Kathietovo amendment allows 36 month expiration for any alternative affordability waiver. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:01 PM
#atxcouncil passes MPT @kathietovo partial fee in lieu review yeas: 8 #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:04 PM
.@mayoradler asks what counts as the start of 36 months in second MPT @kathietovo amend #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:05 PM
.@mayoradler worries about #atxgov yanking economic model out from under devs, 1/3 way through project. #atxcouncil November 19, 2015 09:06 PM
.@mayoradler thinking about scenario where time limit hits as project starts; staff: that would not get renegotiated. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:09 PM
.@mayoradler okay w MPT @Kathietovo amendment if project initiation w.in 36 months counts. MPT seems amenable #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:11 PM
.@mayoradler, @kathietovo land on language. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:12 PM
.@sherigallod10 will abstain again. doesn’t think its ready. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:13 PM
second @kathietovo amend passes. yeas: 8 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:14 PM
nay: @DonZimmermanATX #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 09:14 PM
abstains: @ellenforaustin, @sherigallod10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:15 PM
.@sherigallod10 now offers amend that would send this PUD fee in lieu change to Code Next #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:15 PM
would be direction to staff. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:15 PM
abstains: @DonZimmermanATX #zimcity #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:16 PM
.@dgarzaford2 asks a great question: is there any part of code that will not be reviewed by Code Next? #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:16 PM
.@dgarzaford2 asks a great question: is there any part of code that will not be reviewed by Code Next? #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:16 PM
doesn’t seem like it. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:16 PM
92 passes. yeas: 10 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:17 PM
abstains: 1 @DonZimmermanATX #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 09:17 PM
#atxcouncil turns to items 93, 94, and 95. these would establish homestead preservation districts in southeast, east, and north #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:17 PM
said districts can be used in attempts to help offset property tax increases. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:19 PM
93, 94, 95 passes yeas: 7 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:20 PM
abstains: 3 (@oraatx1, @ellenforaustin, @DonZimmermanATX) #atxcouncil #atxgov #zimcity November 19, 2015 09:20 PM
off the dais: 1 @dgarzaford2 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:20 PM
Item 97
#atxcouncil moves along to item 97. 97 is for Cross Creek Apartments affordable on Rutland Drive. rep notes proximity to amenities. #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:22 PM
.@gregoriocasar notes importance of affordability, adds importance of safety. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:23 PM
.@ellenforaustin asks if developer is for or nonprofit. dev is for profit. #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:24 PM
97 passes. yeas: 9 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:25 PM
abstains: 2 (@donzimmermanatx; @ellenforaustin) #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:26 PM
Item 98
#atxcouncil goes on to item 98, 98 is–again the construction materials recycling. #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:27 PM
passes. yeas: 8 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:28 PM
nos: 3 #atxcouncil #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:28 PM
#atxcouncil adjourns. thanks for following along! #atxgov November 19, 2015 09:29 PM
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